Sunday, December 23rd, 2012 08:09 am
It happened again last night --- I went to bed with programs open so I could work on them in the morning. This morning I wake up to all the programs gone and all my internet logins wiped (nobody else uses this computer so I stay logged in at the places that are the most pain in the ass to log in or that I visit frquently throughout the day) and who knows what other damage.

Microsoft tells me, on the one hand, that the system has recovered from a serious error, and in another popup, that it has just updated. This is in spite of the fact that my settings are for no automatic updates. Just because this is what happens with automatic updates.

So I went to complain and maybe get a pointer on how to get the system to believe that I really, really refuse automatic updates, that I can very well update on my own, that I really really don't want an outside party messing with my stuff. Every link I find takes me to Australia. What? None of these links are any good anyway, as none of them give me an actual email form to make my complaint in. There is a "virtual chat" which is actually the closest thing to a help topics index, but all it does is throw you a bunch of increasingly irrelevant topics that you're expected to choose from. It is not a chat as there is nobody on the other side. It's all chaotic, and, well, I have Xp Pro, which puts me what, three? four? operating systems behind?

I'm not getting the newest operating system. If I had enough money for a new operating system, I'd get my dog some medical care. Or me. Or pay my property taxes. Because the programs I use are all old except for firefox and photoshop and honestly I don't use photoshop as often as paintshop 9, and I don't want new programs that don't do what I want to do, not to speak of the hundreds of dollars involved in replacing them, or the fact that some of them are irreplaceable.

Meanwhile, I have to find out the extent of the damage cause by this iatrogenic crash, and spend about an hour extra getting everything started all over again.
Sunday, December 23rd, 2012 07:47 pm (UTC)
Does the update history show an actual update was applied?
Sunday, December 23rd, 2012 10:55 pm (UTC)
I am not having any luck finding an update history. Can you tell me where it is?

But I am pretty sure it was a real update, because I had been refusing them all day.
Sunday, December 23rd, 2012 11:36 pm (UTC)
I think there may have been something a bit dodgy about this recent update -- it was obviously something they felt was important enough to push off-schedule, so it may not have been as thoroughly tested. My laptop went funny when I postponed rebooting because I was working, and I had to reboot anyway. I haven't tried it on the other machines yet, because the desktop is quite happy in Linux mode at the moment and the XP netbook hasn't been in use this week -- I'll try to remember to be careful when I do update it.
Sunday, December 23rd, 2012 11:48 pm (UTC)
Maybe so, but this isn't the only time I've gotten this kind of thing happening. It happens every couple of months, no matter how often I go back into my settings and turn off the updates again (after Windows has turned them back on against my will).

I keep hearing that Microsoft doesn't support Xp anymore. I wish it was really true, so they would stop messing with me.
Sunday, December 23rd, 2012 11:50 pm (UTC)
And, in fact, Windows had turned on the most robust version of Automatic Updates. Why bother even having a setting if it's not going to be respected?
Monday, December 24th, 2012 12:29 am (UTC)
For me, from Windows Update, there is a column of the left with various options, including "View update history", and "Installed updates". And in the main window, there is a row "Updates were installed: [View update history]".
Monday, December 24th, 2012 01:07 am (UTC)
I don't seem to have a place I can go to called Windows Update. "Automatic Updates" does not offer anything but the lying offer to turn them off, or turn them relatively off.
Monday, December 24th, 2012 12:02 pm (UTC)
Linux is much more like a real operating system these days and has all the programs you run, and it is all free.

It would be perfectly reasonable if you don't want to pay the time/effort, but I've been running XUbuntu for ages now without any of this kind of problems.
Monday, December 24th, 2012 04:19 pm (UTC)
The thing is I don't know abnybody with experience running Linux and the particular game-related programs I run. As my vuisual art craving is mostly satisfied by making little moddy things for the game, I'd miss it a lot.