I have automatic updates and upgrades turned off everywhere I can find the option to do so, because they invariably crash whatever large program is open at the time, and I keep several large programs open almost all the time -- word perfect, firefox, paintshop pro, and frequently also The SIms 2. But somehow some things can not be turned off. Stupidhead AVG just crashed The Sims again. Why? To let me know that there is an upgrade available. Why not send me a dog-damned email or something?