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Friday, June 24th, 2011 07:45 am
Has anyone besides me been hearing bits of Hilary Clinton's speeches in various places around the world and been startled by the things she's been saying there?

(google is not being my friend.  It wants to show me speeches from 2008)

She told Peru that the rich have to pay their share of the taxes and they had to adequately fund their social institutions and protect human rights.

She told Saudi Arabia to support women's rights (well, they are so far from dealing with abortion and medical care access, since the women can't even go outside, so maybe that's not threatening to US interests at home).

Thwere were more of these sprinkled throughout the week, but naturally I can't find them right now.  I wish I could: there's a pattern here, and I know what it is, but I don't know what it means.

Almost every time she opens her mouth and says something to another people, she articulates the demands that the US left has been making of President Obama.  And then when she talks to US Democrats, she says "don't give up on Obama."

What the hell is she doing?  Is she trying to further a progressive agenda by making these outward-directed speeches?  Is she trying to paper over the huge cracks in the Democratic platform?  Or does she have no idea what she's doing?
Friday, June 24th, 2011 02:51 pm (UTC)
She's not trying to further a progressive agenda because she's not a progressive; she's a moderate centrist liberal, just like Obama, only slightly further left. She may be trying to remind Obama what it is that liberals believe in now that she's given notice that she won't be working for him in his second term, if he has a second term.

She's one of the most self-aware and calculating politicians we've seen in our lifetimes, so I don't think she's unaware of what she's saying and doing. Her spouse works from the gut; she works from the head.

I say all these things as a moderate centrist liberal myself, and one who rather dislikes but admires Hilary Rodham Clinton.
Friday, June 24th, 2011 02:56 pm (UTC)
I think she's more liberal and feminist than the Obama administration, but still a loyal member. If anything she is unusual in having some actual moral beliefs that she holds to.

I think her moderate feminism cost her the Presidency.
Friday, June 24th, 2011 05:49 pm (UTC)
I got lucky: my first attempt, "hillary tells rich", got this story from Pakistan as the top hit.

http://leosigh.com/?p=480

(it might be I just thought in newspaper headline terms)

That story says she's not talking about social justice, just saying that America's rich people shouldn't be paying taxes just so those countries' rich people can get away without paying taxes.
Friday, June 24th, 2011 06:54 pm (UTC)
What's the problem? These are issues she's been working for for decades. She's not POTUS to support them in the US, so as SOS she's supporting them abroad, where she can.

And it's a way to pressure Obama to move left. Just like Moveon and Netroots and other Progressives are pressuring him. She's not as far left as they are, but she's further left than Obama, at least on these issues.