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Friday, June 24th, 2011 07:45 am
Has anyone besides me been hearing bits of Hilary Clinton's speeches in various places around the world and been startled by the things she's been saying there?

(google is not being my friend.  It wants to show me speeches from 2008)

She told Peru that the rich have to pay their share of the taxes and they had to adequately fund their social institutions and protect human rights.

She told Saudi Arabia to support women's rights (well, they are so far from dealing with abortion and medical care access, since the women can't even go outside, so maybe that's not threatening to US interests at home).

Thwere were more of these sprinkled throughout the week, but naturally I can't find them right now.  I wish I could: there's a pattern here, and I know what it is, but I don't know what it means.

Almost every time she opens her mouth and says something to another people, she articulates the demands that the US left has been making of President Obama.  And then when she talks to US Democrats, she says "don't give up on Obama."

What the hell is she doing?  Is she trying to further a progressive agenda by making these outward-directed speeches?  Is she trying to paper over the huge cracks in the Democratic platform?  Or does she have no idea what she's doing?
Friday, June 24th, 2011 02:51 pm (UTC)
She's not trying to further a progressive agenda because she's not a progressive; she's a moderate centrist liberal, just like Obama, only slightly further left. She may be trying to remind Obama what it is that liberals believe in now that she's given notice that she won't be working for him in his second term, if he has a second term.

She's one of the most self-aware and calculating politicians we've seen in our lifetimes, so I don't think she's unaware of what she's saying and doing. Her spouse works from the gut; she works from the head.

I say all these things as a moderate centrist liberal myself, and one who rather dislikes but admires Hilary Rodham Clinton.
Friday, June 24th, 2011 02:55 pm (UTC)
Is it conceivable that she's setting up a basis for another campaign to become president?
Friday, June 24th, 2011 03:19 pm (UTC)
I am absolutely sure she is not, at least for 2012. She's a good strategist, and she knows that having a serious primary fight would not bode well for the November elections. She'll circle the wagons to defend her party.
Friday, June 24th, 2011 03:33 pm (UTC)
She could be positioning for a run in 2016, when she'll be 68, or she could have be setting herself up to go back to the Senate and stay there till she dies. She was a very effective Senator, and it's the only job she's qualified for that she could hold for her whole life.
Friday, June 24th, 2011 02:59 pm (UTC)
Isn't "centrist liberal" an oxymoron in current political rhetoric? HR Clinton is not a likeable person, which seems to be part of why she is not President. But, you know, she actually believes in something other than power, which sets her apart from most presidential candidates.