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Thursday, August 7th, 2014 03:27 pm

Jim Hines had a thing to say about having been called out for appropriation. I haven't read the thing he was called out for, so these are general rfemarks. They're here instead of there because I went long.

I have a sticker on my old computer that says "My people are the whole world." And it better be true, because otherwise I have nobody.

For a long time I have thought that the whole notion of "appropriation" is problematic. The first time I saw it used, it was pretty clear what the issue was. It was about people who paint themselves up and stick a feather in their head and call themselves a shaman: it was about people who claim to have "gone on walkabout" and had "healing visions:" it was about, clearly, exploitation and fraud. And then I saw it used to try to examine what was problematic about some of the ways that fans fetishize elements from doujinshi traditions. Lately, though – I see it used against people who are engaged in the good old-fashioned process of cultural borrowing. You sing Fado and you're not Portuguese? Appropriation. You wear batik and you're not Indonesian? Appropriation. You're not visibly genetically Japanese and you write a character who eats okonomi yaki? Appropriation.

It's not helpful to any sensible goals to tell people they can only include elements of their own culture. You're going to tell that to musicians, maybe? You'll lose all the music ever recorded. All of it. You're going to tell that to the clothing industry? Be prepared to lose everything there too. How about food? I have no idea what I'd be allowed to eat. Is that appropriation thing additive or subtractive?

Is there a time limit on how far back it is considered appropriation? In other words, do I have to give up fresh ginger, but maybe I can keep carrots because 17th century?

I am not kidding about any of this. Culture is by nature promiscuous and appropriates everything from everywhere. If you want to think about this sensibly, you have to look at what your real problems with "appropriation" are.

I think there are just three concerns here. There's the use of cultural elements to bolster racism (consciously or unconsciously: we live in a matrix of racism and everything we do either pushes back against it or supports it or both). Conversely there's the use of cultural elements to build the strength of unprivileged cultures and the connection and cooperation between them (should that be two things?). And there's the access of people from those cultures to the marketplace (and the things that implies).

The third concern is the one that gives rise to a legitimate beef about who does what. If Joe Whiteguy writes a series of novels about the Arapaho and it means that a number of agents look at a good manuscript written by an Arapaho writer and say "Oh, Joe Whiteguy already has that market cornered," that's massively unfair. It's still not Joe Whiteguy's fault. Joe Whiteguy's responsibility is to the first and second concerns. If his work is honest and respectful and well-conceived and well-written he'll have pushed back against racism and contributed towards a better environment for Arapaho culture to thrive in. Now, if Joe Whiteguy becomes aware of this other manuscript, he can say, "Hey, this other manuscript is here, it's good, it ought to be published too." But how much pull he has in getting that manuscript taken seriously is questionable.

I'm seriously troubled, too, by the essentialist thread that runs through the appropriation conversation. How you can't possibly write something correctly unless you yourself are authentically a member of the culture in question. Sometimes people naively divide the world into "of color" and "white." I think the worst example of this particular quirk was a Sims Secret complaint that a dreads hairstyle was being portrayed on a light-skinned Sim with an unnatural hair color. "This Sim is not a POC! This is not okay!" (quote is not exact) – you can see all the things wrong with that. But in the discussion that followed, there were quite a few people who took this position seriously.

Essentialism can also lead to objections to anybody representing anybody else, like complaining when a Korean-American actor plays a Japanese character. Seriously, that Korean-American actor needs all the roles they can get. I hope that complaint doesn't lead to complaining if they get roles in Shakespeare or Tennessee Williams plays.

Let me be clear about what I'm not saying.


  1. I am not saying that there is no room for critique about representation in culture.


  2. I am not saying that we shouldn't be fighting for more writers, artists, actors, musicians, and so on from underrepresented cultures.


What I am saying is


  1. Cultural borrowing and the inclusion of characters from cultures other than the creators' home cultures is inevitable and we shouldn't even try to discourage these things.


  2. We should critique the qualities and quality of these things instead or their mere existence.


  3. We should be fighting for more the members of underrepresented cultures to get more access to the marketplace of culture, rather than excoriating people from outside those cultures for including them in their work.


Why yes, I have a stake in this argument. I myself don't have a coherent "home culture" to stick to. I was raised in an ephemeral counter-cultural niche that no longer exists (and for which I am sometimes nostalgic, but I think if you have not even a scrap of nostalgia about you at my age you must have had a much worse time of it than I have had). If I wrote to the expectations implied by the color of my skin and my age and location, I would be writing about a culture as foreign to me as any other on this planet. If my work made assumptions of power and respectability and normality that those superficials seem to warrant, I would be a liar. All of my life, I have been a foreigner in my own country, and I have been pretty much equally ill at ease in all of the cultural milieus in which I have found myself.

Most of the time I write about made-up cultures in made-up geographies and histories and I am not sufficiently self-analytical to know if there's a connection with those facts about myself. However, I also write about people who are like my neighbors. I do it with respect, and I hope I do it with understanding. But whichever culture the people I write about are from, I still have to extend myself. There's nobody on earth I can write about authentically without going beyond myself.

I am aware that the moral right to write about a subject is an earned one. But it's earned by writing conscientiously, not by being born with a particular set of DNA or in a particular community.

Thursday, August 7th, 2014 10:36 pm (UTC)
It's the segregationist mindset.

Very popular, sad to say.
Thursday, August 7th, 2014 11:46 pm (UTC)
Thanks for taking the time to write out these thoughts so completely and so well. I really enjoyed reading this and think it's well said.

Also, I love all your music links on the left!
Friday, August 8th, 2014 04:12 am (UTC)
I'd like to add a 3(b): We should be fighting for members of underrepresented cultures not to be punished or mocked when they embrace their culture/language/music/dance forms/story forms/clothing/hairstyles while members of the overrepresented culture get to use those things with impunity. When that happens it's not borrowing, it's outright theft. It might still not be Joe Whiteguy's personal responsibility when that happens and it doesn't mean he can't write about underrepresented cultures, but I would think more highly of Joe Whiteguy if he were aware that it happens and willing to use his association with the underrepresented culture and his privilege to speak out against it when he can.
Friday, August 8th, 2014 01:02 pm (UTC)
Thank you for that clear and thoughtful post. You are absolutely right about the extent to which cultures exchange ideas, fashions, foods, skills and artefacts. This has gone on for thousands of years and it has (for the most part) enriched all the cultures involved in the exchange.
Friday, August 8th, 2014 04:00 pm (UTC)
A lot of the world finds this USian obsession that someone from another culture masters and uses something from another as ridiculous. Academics as well as artists and general population, point fingers and laugh at this self-righteous ignorance, that proclaims a white woman is not allowed to study belly dance or do yoga. You have never seen the Afro Cuban community declaim that white people aren't allowed to dance salsa, or African Americans declare white people can't play jazz. Why, just look at the line-ups of the musicians on stage, who are every color from deepest black to whitest white.

In the Caribbean and South America this is called creolization, and it CANNOT BE STOPPED. Especially when it comes to music, dance and food.

Not to mention the reverse syncretization of culture and spirituality, which began in the very first moments of the slave trade.

Love, C.
Friday, August 8th, 2014 09:47 pm (UTC)
I think that cultural appropriation discussions rapidly become incoherent from a creator POV for many if not all of the reasons you discuss.

As a critical POV, however, I think that they make sense coming from a colonial/postcolonial lens. The criticism that a dominant culture can and will take all of what they want away from a colonized culture and be given the freedom to mix, match, reinterpret and otherwise do what they will with said cultural material, and that sux *and* has repercussions about what the colonized culture can do with what's left (see, for example, the onus to be "authentic") (See also "everything but the burden"), seems to me an entirely reasonable field of discussion. But it always gets sidetracked into individualized "what can I do?" discussions when what we're really talking about is metaphenomena.

Sort of the way nearly every discussion of systematic anything tends to devolve, really.
Friday, August 8th, 2014 10:17 pm (UTC)
I think maybe you just told me what I wanted to be saying.

Although there is a cloud of youngsters shouting very loudly who think they are doing just that kind of critique, but all they are doing is reacting piecemeal and reflexively to things that are no part of it (viz, the pixel person with light pixel skin and pixel dreads). They really do put a lot of static in the airwaves and it makes it difficult to carry on substantive conversations in their vicinity.